Comments on: REPORT: MLS Outperforming English Premier League Ratings on American TV http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/ MLS Transfer Rumors, MLS Expansion Rumors, MLS Stadium Rumors, MLS Supporters Actions, Celebrity MLS Fans Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:43:06 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Pete http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24350 Pete Mon, 09 Nov 2009 04:17:15 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24350 ESPN is also broadcasting in HD which FSC isn't doing right now. As everyone knows soccer being televised in HD is better and easier to watch. FSC plans on upgrading to HD later this year and into 2010 which will also draw more viewers to EPL and MLS matches. ESPN is also broadcasting in HD which FSC isn’t doing right now. As everyone knows soccer being televised in HD is better and easier to watch. FSC plans on upgrading to HD later this year and into 2010 which will also draw more viewers to EPL and MLS matches.

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]]> By: tech http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24336 tech Sat, 07 Nov 2009 19:46:50 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24336 i also know for a fact that what makes the mls better is the fact that our american soccer is more of a contact sport, the players crash into each other and it takes for pysical strenth to try and make it here, my friend in england says he see's mls cause it's like nfl football meets soccer that's why it's more entertaining our american soccer is more harder than even the europeans just watch and you'll see it for yourself. i also know for a fact that what makes the mls better is the fact that our american soccer is more of a contact sport, the players crash into each other and it takes for pysical strenth to try and make it here, my friend in england says he see’s mls cause it’s like nfl football meets soccer that’s why it’s more entertaining our american soccer is more harder than even the europeans just watch and you’ll see it for yourself.

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]]> By: R http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24284 R Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:37:22 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24284 for starters, there are more MLS games on tv than EPL games anyway, so this entire claim isn't very revealing. the other big issue, as others have said, is EPSN isn't exactly playing the best matchups. While Wolverhampton versus Aston Villa might be fun for the Aston fans to watch, the match isn't compelling.... yet this was a recent ESPN offering of the EPL. bring better games and more of them, and you'll have better viewership. i doubt the British sports channels seek out the NFL games featuring the St. Louis Rams and the Detroit Lions, for example. for starters, there are more MLS games on tv than EPL games anyway, so this entire claim isn’t very revealing.

the other big issue, as others have said, is EPSN isn’t exactly playing the best matchups. While Wolverhampton versus Aston Villa might be fun for the Aston fans to watch, the match isn’t compelling…. yet this was a recent ESPN offering of the EPL.

bring better games and more of them, and you’ll have better viewership.

i doubt the British sports channels seek out the NFL games featuring the St. Louis Rams and the Detroit Lions, for example.

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]]> By: rick in LA http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24270 rick in LA Thu, 05 Nov 2009 05:12:51 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24270 Yes EPL is a good league, but only a few teams are really interesting to watch, and teams at the bottom show a marked drop in quality, and can be boring. I like watching MLS games because I have been a fan from the beginning, I know most of the players, and know what teams they have played for, I know the history, the DC-LA rivalry of the first few years and remembers the coaches when they were players themselves. But the main reason I prefer MLS games over EPL is that its more relevant to me. I can go watch the MLS teams play on any given week in person, I can be there and that makes them more important and more closer to my mind and heart. I love this league and hope it keeps getting better, watching EPL is like watching any other league in the world that is beyond my reach, my means and my ability to attend a live game. MLS is my league. Yes EPL is a good league, but only a few teams are really interesting to watch, and teams at the bottom show a marked drop in quality, and can be boring. I like watching MLS games because I have been a fan from the beginning, I know most of the players, and know what teams they have played for, I know the history, the DC-LA rivalry of the first few years and remembers the coaches when they were players themselves. But the main reason I prefer MLS games over EPL is that its more relevant to me. I can go watch the MLS teams play on any given week in person, I can be there and that makes them more important and more closer to my mind and heart. I love this league and hope it keeps getting better, watching EPL is like watching any other league in the world that is beyond my reach, my means and my ability to attend a live game. MLS is my league.

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]]> By: Pray 4 Davies #9 http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24268 Pray 4 Davies #9 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 03:51:19 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24268 The only English games I watch are the ones with teams who have American players on their rosters. That goes for Bundesliga, La Liga, Seria A, etc... Otherwise, I prefer MLS. Its not out of patriotism to my country or loyalty to my home team that I say this. It is specifically because I believe MLS is the most exciting league in the world. A few fans never thought the league would be where it is today, and its the same people who doubt the MLS's potential for the future. I like that MLSR lets the numbers speak for themselves. You get a guy every now and then who comes on a soccer site and says something about how bad American soccer is or how no one likes the MLS. Someone who has never seen an MLS game or doesn't pay any attention to the Men's or Women's national team wouldn't know any better, but people who really know soccer know that the MLS is a quality league. More young American athletes will continue to pursue soccer as their sport of choice if the opprotunities exist locally for them to do so. More MLS teams only increases those opprotunities. Investment in the grassroots system increases those opprotunities. Communities supporting the construction of SSS and tournament fields for youth increase those opprotunities. There will be a day when each stadium is full, when every game will be televised in HD, and when an MLS CONCACAF Champion is an expectation. This is a reality that will happen sooner than later. America is becoming more globalized and sports that have survived on isolation will be a thing of the past. The only English games I watch are the ones with teams who have American players on their rosters. That goes for Bundesliga, La Liga, Seria A, etc…

Otherwise, I prefer MLS. Its not out of patriotism to my country or loyalty to my home team that I say this. It is specifically because I believe MLS is the most exciting league in the world. A few fans never thought the league would be where it is today, and its the same people who doubt the MLS’s potential for the future.

I like that MLSR lets the numbers speak for themselves. You get a guy every now and then who comes on a soccer site and says something about how bad American soccer is or how no one likes the MLS. Someone who has never seen an MLS game or doesn’t pay any attention to the Men’s or Women’s national team wouldn’t know any better, but people who really know soccer know that the MLS is a quality league.

More young American athletes will continue to pursue soccer as their sport of choice if the opprotunities exist locally for them to do so. More MLS teams only increases those opprotunities. Investment in the grassroots system increases those opprotunities. Communities supporting the construction of SSS and tournament fields for youth increase those opprotunities.

There will be a day when each stadium is full, when every game will be televised in HD, and when an MLS CONCACAF Champion is an expectation. This is a reality that will happen sooner than later. America is becoming more globalized and sports that have survived on isolation will be a thing of the past.

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]]> By: Sounders Fan http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24256 Sounders Fan Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:11:17 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24256 don't_buy_it- Is it possible that "only morons" come to sites with names like MLS Rumors and demand proper citations? Just a thought. don’t_buy_it-

Is it possible that “only morons” come to sites with names like MLS Rumors and demand proper citations?

Just a thought.

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]]> By: tech http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24140 tech Wed, 04 Nov 2009 06:14:00 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24140 the most popular derby in the mls is l.a galaxy versus chivas usa, but thats not the biggest rivalry in the mls like most say, the biggest rivalry is l.a galaxy versus d.c united peple have to do their homework to find out a true rivalry, and thats's the mls true classic. the most popular derby in the mls is l.a galaxy versus chivas usa, but thats not the biggest rivalry in the mls like most say, the biggest rivalry is l.a galaxy versus d.c united peple have to do their homework to find out a true rivalry, and thats’s the mls true classic.

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]]> By: Jason http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24138 Jason Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:41:48 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24138 That's because ESPN shows Burnley every other week. If ESPN aired Man U., Arsenal, or Liverpool on a consistent basis, the ratings would be much higher than MLS That’s because ESPN shows Burnley every other week. If ESPN aired Man U., Arsenal, or Liverpool on a consistent basis, the ratings would be much higher than MLS

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]]> By: sammysounder http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24096 sammysounder Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:25:34 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24096 I prefer MLS now. EPL's too predictable. Guess who's going to be in the top four? I prefer MLS now. EPL’s too predictable.

Guess who’s going to be in the top four?

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]]> By: soccer man http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24095 soccer man Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:34:01 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24095 It doesn't help that the games are on so early, out here on the west coast those games are starting super early in the morning. It doesn’t help that the games are on so early, out here on the west coast those games are starting super early in the morning.

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]]> By: CSD http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24093 CSD Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:14:41 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24093 Good for MLS. Nice to see some market share growth on TV. That is best way for revenue growth. EPL games will never be in prime time live so that is a competitive advantage our domestic league will always have against European leagues. Good for MLS. Nice to see some market share growth on TV. That is best way for revenue growth.

EPL games will never be in prime time live so that is a competitive advantage our domestic league will always have against European leagues.

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]]> By: NeoGeek http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24086 NeoGeek Tue, 03 Nov 2009 06:26:38 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24086 Good point, God is a Sounder. I do think that it is difficult for the networks to determine what will work in a league that is so young and with so much parity. I don't think the networks saw Seattle coming but I am willing to bet they get more focus next season. If I were a ESPN/FSC bigwig I might add some Philly matches, hoping for a duplicate of Seattle's success, and I also might throw in some New Jersey Red Bulls (yeah, that's right, I said it) because of the stadium factor. The only home teams I wouldn't be trying to show are Dallas, San Jose, KC, and New England. Even Colorado and SLC are marginal. Seriously SLC, is that the best attendance you can get for a playoff match? You even 'effing won it. Oh, and DCU plays in a dilapidated stadium that is way too large for their fan base, but their fans bring it so it still makes for good TV. And I do Tivo EPL matches, but I usually don't get around to watching them because I just don't have as much vested in it. MLS matches on the other hand I have a vested interest in as a Sounders FC fan. I usually watch two to four MLS matches a week, time permitting. And yes, I pay for Direct Kick and for Match Center Video. Admittedly, I watched just as much MLS prior to Seattle entering the league, but hey, it's my league and I've been following it since 96. Good point, God is a Sounder. I do think that it is difficult for the networks to determine what will work in a league that is so young and with so much parity. I don’t think the networks saw Seattle coming but I am willing to bet they get more focus next season.

If I were a ESPN/FSC bigwig I might add some Philly matches, hoping for a duplicate of Seattle’s success, and I also might throw in some New Jersey Red Bulls (yeah, that’s right, I said it) because of the stadium factor.

The only home teams I wouldn’t be trying to show are Dallas, San Jose, KC, and New England. Even Colorado and SLC are marginal. Seriously SLC, is that the best attendance you can get for a playoff match? You even ‘effing won it. Oh, and DCU plays in a dilapidated stadium that is way too large for their fan base, but their fans bring it so it still makes for good TV.

And I do Tivo EPL matches, but I usually don’t get around to watching them because I just don’t have as much vested in it. MLS matches on the other hand I have a vested interest in as a Sounders FC fan. I usually watch two to four MLS matches a week, time permitting. And yes, I pay for Direct Kick and for Match Center Video. Admittedly, I watched just as much MLS prior to Seattle entering the league, but hey, it’s my league and I’ve been following it since 96.

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]]> By: God is a Sounder http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24084 God is a Sounder Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:43:30 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24084 ESPN and FSC really need to key in on the big match-ups next season. I think they missed several this season. As tired as I am of NYY-BOS on Sunday Night Baseball almost every weekend of the spring/summer, the formula works, and ESPN/FSC needs to do the same w/ MLS to boost viewership even more. Naturally, I want to see more Seattle, but I also want to see matches from the new Philly and NYRB stadiums along w/ big rivalry matches. Right now the average casual viewer only recognizes LA/Chivas as a big rivalry. ESPN and FSC really need to key in on the big match-ups next season. I think they missed several this season. As tired as I am of NYY-BOS on Sunday Night Baseball almost every weekend of the spring/summer, the formula works, and ESPN/FSC needs to do the same w/ MLS to boost viewership even more.

Naturally, I want to see more Seattle, but I also want to see matches from the new Philly and NYRB stadiums along w/ big rivalry matches. Right now the average casual viewer only recognizes LA/Chivas as a big rivalry.

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]]> By: Mcglock http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24083 Mcglock Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:39:23 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24083 Ditto the 4:30 EPL comments. No way can I get up that early. Ditto the 4:30 EPL comments. No way can I get up that early.

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]]> By: Sounders Fan http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24077 Sounders Fan Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:04:12 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24077 I love the EPL, but if ESPN's "marquee" matchup isn't a top-4 team, I'm not interested...the same's true of MLS, though, I guess. Tough to get excited about NYRB vs. San Jose, for example...ESPN's MLS coverage should feature more derbies and regional rivalries! I love the EPL, but if ESPN’s “marquee” matchup isn’t a top-4 team, I’m not interested…the same’s true of MLS, though, I guess. Tough to get excited about NYRB vs. San Jose, for example…ESPN’s MLS coverage should feature more derbies and regional rivalries!

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]]> By: dont_buy_it http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24076 dont_buy_it Tue, 03 Nov 2009 04:01:23 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24076 Where's the data? I don't believe anything without proper citations. Only morons do so. Where’s the data? I don’t believe anything without proper citations. Only morons do so.

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]]> By: NeoGeek http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24073 NeoGeek Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:48:04 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24073 If the increased viewership is maintained or even increased, it could possible lead to more revenue for MLS down the road, which in turn could lead to a higher salary cap, etc, etc... This can only be a good thing. If the increased viewership is maintained or even increased, it could possible lead to more revenue for MLS down the road, which in turn could lead to a higher salary cap, etc, etc… This can only be a good thing.

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]]> By: Supsam http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24072 Supsam Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:34:57 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24072 60% increase on FSC!!! God damn thats a improvement!! 60% increase on FSC!!! God damn thats a improvement!!

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]]> By: pj http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24071 pj Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:09:31 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24071 joe's point is valid, even if the event is inaccurate. There was an overrun into the DC-Seattle that match from a College World Series game. joe’s point is valid, even if the event is inaccurate. There was an overrun into the DC-Seattle that match from a College World Series game.

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]]> By: tech http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24067 tech Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:17:30 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24067 People don't always see every premier league game they mostly see when it's chelsea, liverpool, or manchester united playing, they dont care about stock city playing totenham or blakburn, but some are like me i also see fulham and everton just to see our americans playing in europe, but galaxy games are higher now that their in the playoff's, but im proud of this league even though we aren't at that high level yet, but soon will be and instead of us whearing european jersey's maybe they will start wearing our american league jerseys. People don’t always see every premier league game they mostly see when it’s chelsea, liverpool, or manchester united playing, they dont care about stock city playing totenham or blakburn, but some are like me i also see fulham and everton just to see our americans playing in europe, but galaxy games are higher now that their in the playoff’s, but im proud of this league even though we aren’t at that high level yet, but soon will be and instead of us whearing european jersey’s maybe they will start wearing our american league jerseys.

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]]> By: Left Back http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24065 Left Back Tue, 03 Nov 2009 00:01:55 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24065 Thank you MLS rumors I was just going to mention that. Possibly, the real thing could be that the EPL has just started to be shown this season as the MLS has been around on ESPN for the last 15 yrs. Thank you MLS rumors I was just going to mention that. Possibly, the real thing could be that the EPL has just started to be shown this season as the MLS has been around on ESPN for the last 15 yrs.

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]]> By: mlsrumors http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24064 mlsrumors Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:46:42 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24064 FYI, DVRing games is counted by Nielsen now. FYI, DVRing games is counted by Nielsen now.

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]]> By: Michael http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24063 Michael Mon, 02 Nov 2009 23:46:37 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24063 While it makes me happy that more people are watching MLS, aren't most of ESPN's EPL games on at about 4:30am Pacific time? And I see even the EPL withering as the conventional wisdom continues to grow that the UEFA Champions League is the one true footy league. While it makes me happy that more people are watching MLS, aren’t most of ESPN’s EPL games on at about 4:30am Pacific time?

And I see even the EPL withering as the conventional wisdom continues to grow that the UEFA Champions League is the one true footy league.

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]]> By: BeepBeepFailJeep http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24061 BeepBeepFailJeep Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:36:22 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24061 Dave hit it on the head. EPL matches start too early for most viewers. Dave hit it on the head. EPL matches start too early for most viewers.

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]]> By: Dave http://www.mls-rumors.net/4170/2009/11/report-mls-outperforming-english-premier-league-ratings-on-american-tv/comment-page-1/#comment-24059 Dave Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:27:25 +0000 http://www.mls-rumors.net/?p=4170#comment-24059 Sure, when EPL matches on ESPN are on at 4:30am on the West Coast, fewer people are going to watch. I still DVR the weekly match, and watch it when I get up at 8am, but how many other people are going to do that? Sure, when EPL matches on ESPN are on at 4:30am on the West Coast, fewer people are going to watch. I still DVR the weekly match, and watch it when I get up at 8am, but how many other people are going to do that?

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